[SunRay-Users] VMware training by VMware employees say Sun Ray and Sun X line of servers are officially dead?
uncch4ever at gmail.com
Mon Mar 1 22:56:32 EET 2010
Great additrional info.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Craig Bender <Craig.Bender at sun.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure what else Oracle can say to prove that this is wrong, but you
> can look at this from October:
> You can also watch this video that covers Oracle's intentions with Sun Ray
> from last month.
> Dante Brown wrote:
>> Hey Gents.
>> I work with one of Sun's Top Federal Resellers. We are also a VMware
>> Partner. Last week, I have had to address this matter on four different
>> occasions. While with one of those occasions the VMware Rep flat out said
>> this, that rep steered the potential end-user customer to thin client
>> solutions such as Samsung (big hah, right?). The other three had VMware
>> reps actually telling customers and our sales reps that Sun will no longer
>> support VMware View and will drop the Sun Ray practice. Coincidence would
>> have it that this thread had start around the same time. I totally believe
>> this is all FUD, since I have had previous discussions with Oracle Reps who
>> hinted at plans for future Sun Ray solutions. I was then reminded about the
>> VMware Partner Exchange event in Las Vegas a few weeks ago. This is most
>> likely where the FUD began to take root.
>> Here's where I need some assistance. Is there an official statement, in
>> regards to the future of Sun Ray, that we can provide to the customer? My
>> company have a good number of opportunities for Sun Ray deployments. The
>> potential customers are now antsy, due to all the rhetoric about the Sun's
>> thin client direction. I have designed and deployed some proof of concepts,
>> for some of our clients. Some of these projects are now endangered because
>> these PoC's deploy Sun Rays and VMware View.
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Michael Medefesser - sun microsystems <
>> Michael.Medefesser at sun.com <mailto:Michael.Medefesser at sun.com>> wrote:
>> As Brad said, it couldn't further from the truth. It happens all the
>> time in this business. You have a bunch of parrots that just
>> repeat what they are told from their management. They have no clue
>> about what they are saying, and just try to spread FUD.
>> I remember two years ago sitting in a room with a bunch of VMware
>> guys who told us XEN was DOA when Citrix bought
>> it, and that it was going to be to hard to merge it into their other
>> products. Two years later, and I have customers
>> that tell me that they are adopting XEN over VMware. Not because
>> VMware is bad, but because it's extremely expensive,
>> and there are solutions that can give them what they need for a
>> fraction of the price. They know their days at the top are
>> numbered, and their install base is slowly eroding, but I didn't
>> think they would get that desperate, and start spreading
>> this kind of FUD.
>> On 02/25/10 17:32, Brad Lackey wrote:
>>> This is totally and completely made up and couldn't be further from
>>> the truth. Oracle is significantly more interested in it's acquired desktop
>>> technologies than Sun execs ever were.
>>> View 4 works today with the Sun Ray connector for View if you follow
>>> the instructions for https access.
>>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Nurudin Javeri wrote:
>>>> Hi all, I just attended a VMware View 4 training this am in Dallas
>>>> and they were boasting the whole notion of thin client computing and the
>>>> speed and performance (yada, yada, yada) and I asked if it is supported on
>>>> Sun Ray or with the Sun Ray infrastructure, his answer was that since Oracle
>>>> officially announced it is discontinuing Sun Ray client server program this
>>>> year, they are NOT supporting Sun Sun Ray components in View 4.
>>>> Did I miss something? Is this true that Larry Ellison said Sun Ray
>>>> and Sun x86 servers are now being EOL by the end of 2010??? I spent the
>>>> past hour surfing sun.com <http://sun.com>, oracle.com <
>>>> http://oracle.com> and didn't see any news about that.
>>>> Nunu Javeri
>>>> Sun Software Junkie
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>>> Brad Lackey
>>> Technical Enablement Manager
>>> Global Desktop Virtualization
>>> Oracle Corporation
>>> brad.lackey at sun.com <mailto:brad.lackey at sun.com>
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>> -- Michael Medefesser
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